0 1 00:00:00,090 --> 00:00:05,400 Sometimes freelancers get suspended or banned from Upwork for doing something that is against their 1 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,890 terms and conditions. 2 3 00:00:07,110 --> 00:00:12,420 So, I'm gonna give you some tips, to make sure that you don't find yourself in a very kind of tricky situation 3 4 00:00:12,420 --> 00:00:12,830 with them. 4 5 00:00:15,380 --> 00:00:19,190 Trying to get paid outside of Upwork is against their terms and conditions. 5 6 00:00:19,190 --> 00:00:23,810 And if they suspect that you've been trying to do that, they will most likely ban your account. 6 7 00:00:23,810 --> 00:00:25,460 This reason is plain and simple. 7 8 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:30,400 Upwork makes money on transactions and payment transactions, that happens between you and the client. 8 9 00:00:30,460 --> 00:00:36,140 And if you try to take those payments outside of the platform, then they don't make money and you piss 9 10 00:00:36,140 --> 00:00:36,700 them off. 10 11 00:00:36,710 --> 00:00:42,140 You can find more information about this in their terms and conditions. And the clause is called circumvention, 11 12 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:45,470 not circumcision. And you can find out more about it. 12 13 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:49,870 This applies not just to current project, that you get from the client, but also all the subsequent 13 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,050 projects that come from the same client. 14 15 00:00:52,110 --> 00:00:56,200 There they have that 24-month Non-Circumvention period. 15 16 00:00:56,270 --> 00:01:00,950 So the moment you start working with the clients, there is 24-month period, where you have to keep the 16 17 00:01:00,950 --> 00:01:05,520 relationship on Upwork from that client and get paid on Upwork. 17 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,110 So there are sort of triggers in your communication that can raise that red flag. 18 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,210 So, because the messaging happens using Upwork's messaging platform, right? 19 20 00:01:14,210 --> 00:01:21,040 So, if in this messaging you discuss things like Payoneer, this would be the red flag trigger 20 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:26,900 words that instantly, kind of, trigger this suspension, automatically. If you mentioned things like 21 22 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:28,800 Payoneer, Paypal, 22 23 00:01:28,810 --> 00:01:37,010 Bank transfers, Iban's. Anything that is, kind of, can be sort of associated, that you're trying to get paid 23 24 00:01:37,010 --> 00:01:37,440 outside. 24 25 00:01:37,490 --> 00:01:42,830 And it doesn't matter, even if the client is sort of initiating the discussion and they want you to get 25 26 00:01:42,830 --> 00:01:43,970 paid outside. 26 27 00:01:43,970 --> 00:01:49,040 If you agreed to it, or if you are the one, if you kind of mentioned something like "yes" or whatever, then 27 28 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:55,050 you will get suspended, even if they asked you for it. To make sure, that if a client asks you that you know 28 29 00:01:55,050 --> 00:01:55,230 what, 29 30 00:01:55,340 --> 00:01:56,680 "Let's take this outside". 30 31 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,640 Say "no", you want to keep things on Upwork. 31 32 00:01:59,660 --> 00:02:01,910 Now, most of the suspensions happen automatically. 32 33 00:02:01,910 --> 00:02:06,260 It's just, if you mention something, then AI gets triggered and all that stuff. 33 34 00:02:06,620 --> 00:02:13,680 But sometimes, maybe you mentioned PayPal, not because you wanted to get paid outside, but maybe you're 34 35 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:15,280 giving an example 35 36 00:02:15,420 --> 00:02:16,460 of the PayPal's website. 36 37 00:02:16,460 --> 00:02:21,770 Maybe you are trying to design a website that is for the banking, or maybe you are designing some 37 38 00:02:22,150 --> 00:02:25,220 E-wallet or something that is related to financing. 38 39 00:02:25,220 --> 00:02:31,130 Then it's okay. Because if you will get automatically suspended, then you can appeal and then a human 39 40 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:35,810 being will take, take a look at your communication and if they are convinced that you are not trying 40 41 00:02:35,810 --> 00:02:38,570 to get paid outside, but you were kind of discussing this 41 42 00:02:38,570 --> 00:02:41,430 that was part of the project, then it's going to be OK. 42 43 00:02:41,630 --> 00:02:43,010 And they will lift the ban. 43 44 00:02:43,060 --> 00:02:49,250 Now, naturally, if you are discussing this on Skype call or a video call, that is not part of Upwork, 44 45 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:49,720 right? 45 46 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:56,510 You know, it's impossible for Upwork to find out. But I do have some good reasons for you to stay actually 46 47 00:02:56,510 --> 00:02:57,090 on Upwork. 47 48 00:02:57,140 --> 00:02:58,940 At the end of the day Upwork is a good thing. 48 49 00:02:58,940 --> 00:03:01,430 It enables so many freelancers to find work. 49 50 00:03:01,460 --> 00:03:04,720 We all want Upwork to make money and not go out of business. 50 51 00:03:04,730 --> 00:03:10,320 And if most of us move relationship out of Upwork, one day they'll just go out of business. 51 52 00:03:10,350 --> 00:03:13,340 Upwork's decreasing commission rate makes it worthwhile. 52 53 00:03:13,340 --> 00:03:19,580 After $500 commission slashes in half, from 20 to 10%. 10% isn't that big. 53 54 00:03:19,710 --> 00:03:22,870 Udemy, for example, takes at least 50% of what I make here. 54 55 00:03:22,910 --> 00:03:24,670 So, Upwork isn't that bad. 55 56 00:03:24,740 --> 00:03:30,080 After 10k earning, it slashes again to 5% fee. That's nothing really. 56 57 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:36,380 If you got paid through PayPal or credit cards, you still lose 2-3% in transaction fees. And 57 58 00:03:36,380 --> 00:03:40,880 if you'd have to deal with currency conversion on top of that, then you definitely end up losing up to 58 59 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,110 5% anyways. 59 60 00:03:42,110 --> 00:03:44,450 Finally not having to deal with billing is awesome. 60 61 00:03:44,450 --> 00:03:46,400 Your clients get charged automatically. 61 62 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:51,830 You never have to deal with invoicing and chasing payments, that saves a lot of time and hassle. Because 62 63 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:56,660 as a freelancer, sometimes there are cases where you do have to chase the clients to pay you on 63 64 00:03:56,660 --> 00:03:57,180 time. 64 65 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,930 But with Upwork it's nice because there, its credit card gets automatically charged and if their credit 65 66 00:04:02,930 --> 00:04:07,640 card isn't working fine, then the client gets suspended on Upwork, so you know about it as 66 67 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:08,110 well. 67 68 00:04:08,210 --> 00:04:10,060 That saves a lot of time and hassle. 68 69 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,410 Now, second reason why freelancers get suspended on Upwork is if they're sending a lot of proposals, 69 70 00:04:17,620 --> 00:04:20,020 but not getting awarded a lot of jobs. 70 71 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,940 Basically this happens when you're spamming and sending way too many proposals without actually going 71 72 00:04:24,940 --> 00:04:30,520 through them, and kind of deliberately thinking what are you applying, and exactly applying to where you 72 73 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:30,800 want. 73 74 00:04:30,820 --> 00:04:36,040 No one really knows exactly what's the percentage of success rate that you have to get hired. 74 75 00:04:36,430 --> 00:04:44,650 But there is this rumour, that you have to get hired every 20 proposals that you send, I think. But it's 75 76 00:04:44,650 --> 00:04:49,120 a rumour so, it might not be real, might be less, might be more. But if you applied the 76 77 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:54,710 tips that you've learned in this section, then that should never happen. 77 78 00:04:54,830 --> 00:04:59,980 Don't put any skills on your profile that you don't have, Upwork sometimes does a random skill check 78 79 00:04:59,990 --> 00:05:05,480 of freelancers and they do these sort of oral test. And they do an interview with a freelancer to make 79 80 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,460 sure whatever they've put under their skills is true. 80 81 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:14,780 Once actually my account was frozen because of this skill check. They sort of initiated this skill check 81 82 00:05:14,780 --> 00:05:19,250 on my account, then I had an interview with a customer service person and they were kind of quizzing 82 83 00:05:19,250 --> 00:05:25,910 me on HTML and CSS. And it was strange because I never put HTML or CSS as my skills, 83 84 00:05:25,940 --> 00:05:31,430 but I guess because I was under a web design category, they assumed that I'm supposed to know 84 85 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:34,220 HTML, CSS, even though I never claimed that I knew that. 85 86 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:40,310 Luckily I was able to appeal and explain to them that I don't need HTML and CSS to do my job, and 86 87 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:45,280 I that never claimed that I knew it. And they understood and they unfroze my account. 87 88 00:05:45,410 --> 00:05:49,400 But if I had them in my skills, then I would have been totally screwed. 88 89 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,020 The thing is, because Upwork is such a big platform and there's so many people and so much money is 89 90 00:05:54,020 --> 00:06:00,080 moving there, sort of attracts bad actors as well, who are trying to game the system and opening fraudulent 90 91 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,840 accounts and doing, engaging in some different scam activities. 91 92 00:06:03,860 --> 00:06:08,780 So Upwork is very diligent about it. And it's clamping down many different accounts, to make sure that 92 93 00:06:08,780 --> 00:06:14,150 people who are there, they claim who they are and they claim that they know skills and they can 93 94 00:06:14,150 --> 00:06:17,250 perform what they kind of promise to their clients. 94 95 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:22,610 So, make sure that whatever you put on Upwork everything is true and authentic, and you're not trying 95 96 00:06:22,610 --> 00:06:27,860 to sort of game the system. Because they don't have a big tolerance, or even if something 96 97 00:06:27,860 --> 00:06:31,640 is like, you know, shaky, it's just remove anything that is now 100% truth.