0 1 00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:05,190 Some of your clients will have an experience with Webflow and they will want the website directly 1 2 00:00:05,190 --> 00:00:11,670 build inside it and they will be looking for Webflow designers specifically. But for others, they will 2 3 00:00:11,670 --> 00:00:17,680 not, might not be even familiar with Webflow, so you will have to, sort of, convince them to use Webflow 3 4 00:00:17,700 --> 00:00:18,650 as the platform. 4 5 00:00:18,660 --> 00:00:20,890 These clients can be split in 2 types. 5 6 00:00:21,030 --> 00:00:26,610 Those who don't have any requirement, where you're going to build the website. And second, those who have 6 7 00:00:26,610 --> 00:00:29,690 some sort of preference towards particular platform. 7 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:36,450 Usually, that being WordPress. Selling Webflow to those who don't have a particular requirement or preference 8 9 00:00:36,450 --> 00:00:39,960 where you're going to build it, really doesn't need that much convincing. 9 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:45,900 Most of my clients are like that and they usually just trust my expertise on where I'm going to build 10 11 00:00:45,900 --> 00:00:49,040 the website. 11 12 00:00:49,050 --> 00:00:55,480 The only thing that might need a bit of convincing is the hosting costs of Webflow. Because, so there 12 13 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:01,510 is the hosting of... Each website basically has a hosting. Right? And you have to pay for each website's 13 14 00:01:01,530 --> 00:01:09,060 hosting, which is usually $15 per month for a regular static website and $20 per month 14 15 00:01:09,060 --> 00:01:16,320 for the websites that have a CMS on it. But one thing is important to note is that hosting 15 16 00:01:16,650 --> 00:01:19,710 costs money on other options as well. 16 17 00:01:19,710 --> 00:01:23,420 Even if it's Wordpress. Wordpress itself is free, but the hosting is paid. 17 18 00:01:23,450 --> 00:01:30,360 So, the website has to live somewhere. And this is something you will need to explain to some of the clients. 18 19 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,430 For example, I myself when I was running a business, I didn't know much about web design or development 19 20 00:01:35,790 --> 00:01:43,250 and I thought our company website just magically lived in the cloud. So you might need to explain 20 21 00:01:43,260 --> 00:01:48,030 a bit of it, how this is going to work. That the website has to be hosted somewhere and we have to 21 22 00:01:48,030 --> 00:01:52,320 pay that company to host the website for us on their servers. 22 23 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:58,740 So, for example, let's take Bluehost as an example, which is one of the biggest and most popular hosting 23 24 00:01:58,740 --> 00:01:59,430 providers. 24 25 00:01:59,430 --> 00:02:01,770 Their prices start at $5 per month. 25 26 00:02:01,770 --> 00:02:06,810 Their website will sometimes advertise 3 year in advance plans. And they will tell you even less than 26 27 00:02:06,810 --> 00:02:07,830 $5 per month. 27 28 00:02:07,830 --> 00:02:10,260 So I'm taking one year in advance. Right? 28 29 00:02:10,260 --> 00:02:13,220 If you buy the entire one year package then it comes down, 29 30 00:02:13,230 --> 00:02:19,770 I think the minimum is $5 per month. And if we use the same kind of approach on Webflow and 30 31 00:02:19,770 --> 00:02:24,910 if we buy annual price, this is what I usually do, I just buy, you know, annual prices for each website. 31 32 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,990 And then the price comes down to $12 a month. So they give you a little discount on it. 32 33 00:02:30,060 --> 00:02:37,260 So, as you can see that already shrinks the difference between Webflow's 12 a month. And then something 33 34 00:02:37,260 --> 00:02:43,230 else and other alternatives, that could usually will be around at least $5 per month. 34 35 00:02:43,230 --> 00:02:49,560 Now, where actually the pricing on private hosting really comes down and makes it really cheap 35 36 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:57,600 per website is when you're hosting multiple websites. Because regular private hosting providers, 36 37 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:03,300 they also give you, the price that I gave you right now it was only for one website hosting, but with 37 38 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:07,730 a very small kind of price increase, I think 2-3 dollars per month increase. 38 39 00:03:07,770 --> 00:03:13,230 Now they give you a different plan which lets you host unlimited amount of websites. 39 40 00:03:13,230 --> 00:03:18,510 Obviously, limited based on how much bandwidth and how much storage you're gonna get there, but they 40 41 00:03:18,780 --> 00:03:20,710 don't usually limit you 41 42 00:03:20,850 --> 00:03:25,280 how many websites you can host on your one single plan with them. 42 43 00:03:25,530 --> 00:03:30,750 And so you can just build as many websites as you want and that's where the prices really come 43 44 00:03:30,750 --> 00:03:32,400 down per website. 44 45 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:39,540 But the issue is that regular clients can't really use this benefit, because regular clients usually 45 46 00:03:39,540 --> 00:03:42,440 have one business and they need one website. Right? 46 47 00:03:42,450 --> 00:03:49,350 So they're not, never going to benefit out of hosting hundred different websites on one single plan, 47 48 00:03:49,590 --> 00:03:51,410 because they don't need a 100 different websites. 48 49 00:03:51,420 --> 00:03:53,240 They just have one website. Right? 49 50 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:58,930 And I mean website because of course, we can have even on Webflow, we can have one website, 50 51 00:03:58,990 --> 00:04:03,960 we'll pay only one plan, but we can have, you know, it can have 1000 pages. 51 52 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,890 That's a different story. I'm talking about different websites on different web addresses and things 52 53 00:04:07,890 --> 00:04:08,280 like that. 53 54 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,390 Right? 54 55 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,260 So, that's the big, kind of, money saver on private hosting. 55 56 00:04:13,350 --> 00:04:19,320 Now, for example, if I was a WordPress developer what I could do, is have my own account. Right? On one hosting 56 57 00:04:20,010 --> 00:04:26,850 plan and then every website that I build for all of my clients, I would host them there. 57 58 00:04:26,910 --> 00:04:27,510 Right? 58 59 00:04:27,570 --> 00:04:31,830 So, per website now, you know, the price would come down very very cheap. 59 60 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:32,390 Right? 60 61 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:38,010 Because I'm just, I just have 1 account, 1 hosting plan and then every website is going there. 61 62 00:04:38,010 --> 00:04:47,160 And then what I can do is, I can charge to my clients annual hosting costs or management fees for each 62 63 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:47,690 website 63 64 00:04:47,700 --> 00:04:49,360 and then I would pocket the difference. 64 65 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:52,700 And that's what obviously a lot of web developers do. 65 66 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,680 But that then ends up as a similar price to the client at the end of the day. 66 67 00:04:57,690 --> 00:05:03,000 So for the client, they don't really have a lot of options. Because no web developer is going to pass 67 68 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:10,750 up on that very good opportunity to make extra money and offer a completely free hosting. Right? 68 69 00:05:10,770 --> 00:05:14,040 Because they would still have to, you know, pay for it and all that stuff. 69 70 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:20,290 So, why would they offer it for free? Now for other important benefits. On webflow, 70 71 00:05:20,300 --> 00:05:26,530 you get what's called a managed hosting. Managed hosting means that they do a lot in the background 71 72 00:05:26,530 --> 00:05:34,510 for you. Things that you or your client never has to worry about like automated backups, security, malware 72 73 00:05:34,510 --> 00:05:42,040 scanning and removal, server-side software updates, performance improvements and much more that I don't 73 74 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,530 understand and I don't care about as long as it's taken care of. Security maintenance is a big issue 74 75 00:05:47,530 --> 00:05:48,100 with servers. 75 76 00:05:48,100 --> 00:05:53,620 I once had a WordPress site, which I self-hosted on a cheap server. One day some malware got in and 76 77 00:05:53,620 --> 00:05:55,290 turned my site upside down. 77 78 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:58,090 The site was going on and off constantly. 78 79 00:05:58,090 --> 00:06:01,060 The malware was using all my server bandwidth. 79 80 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,700 I couldn't figure out how to remove the damn thing. 80 81 00:06:03,820 --> 00:06:04,950 It was my personal site. 81 82 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,230 So, I just decided to take the whole thing down and cancel the hosting. 82 83 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:16,540 And if that's not enough for the difference then this is. A typical cheapest hosting plans usually give 83 84 00:06:16,540 --> 00:06:22,140 you a server space in one single location. A computer called a server where your website lives. 84 85 00:06:22,270 --> 00:06:28,420 If I'm in Australia and the server is in the US, then a website content needs to travel through cables 85 86 00:06:28,450 --> 00:06:30,960 all the way from US to Australia. 86 87 00:06:30,970 --> 00:06:36,940 This makes a site load like a snail. But Webflow's hosting comes with what's called CDM content delivery 87 88 00:06:36,940 --> 00:06:40,980 network. With Webflow your site loads from the nearest server to the user. 88 89 00:06:41,020 --> 00:06:46,710 So if a user is in Japan, the website will load from a nearby server in Tokyo, not from California. 89 90 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:51,880 Of course, Webflow isn't the only hosting to offer that. But moment you add CDN feature on regular 90 91 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:52,630 servers, 91 92 00:06:52,780 --> 00:06:56,820 pricing starts to rise and come quite close to a Webflow pricing. 92 93 00:06:59,590 --> 00:07:03,160 If that's not enough, Webflow hosting has one more trick up their sleeve. 93 94 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,400 This is a benefit the regular managed servers don't have. 94 95 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:12,340 You see, regular servers need to be ready for anything, users may install Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal or even 95 96 00:07:12,370 --> 00:07:15,370 all 3 of these systems and run them all at once. 96 97 00:07:15,370 --> 00:07:20,980 This poses no problems for the server, but it does mean that it cannot be fully optimized to run just 97 98 00:07:20,980 --> 00:07:26,830 one particular system really well. But Webflow servers need to run only one system - Webflow. So it's highly 98 99 00:07:26,830 --> 00:07:28,930 fine tuned to run only Webflow. 99 100 00:07:28,930 --> 00:07:34,600 Now, of course, there are comparable hosting providers that match all Webflow benefits, that specialize 100 101 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:41,740 in single platform, are managed and include CDM features, but they end up more expensive than Webflow. 101 102 00:07:41,740 --> 00:07:47,920 For example, WP engine, a popular provider of specialized WordPress hosting that has all the same, 102 103 00:07:47,980 --> 00:07:53,050 similar features that Webflow offers, starts at $35 dollars per month. 103 104 00:07:53,260 --> 00:07:58,480 So there you have it, when compared to 1 website versus 1 website hosting, the prices come very 104 105 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,580 similar or sometimes even more expensive 105 106 00:08:00,580 --> 00:08:06,340 on the other site, if you are using the very same features that kind of Webflow offers. And at the end 106 107 00:08:06,340 --> 00:08:12,220 of the day, if a website cannot bring more value to your client then $20 per month, then what's 107 108 00:08:12,220 --> 00:08:13,690 the point of that website anyways? 108 109 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:22,010 Second type of clients will have preferences to specific platform usually WordPress. 109 110 00:08:22,010 --> 00:08:28,680 Now, because before you make the case and try to convince them to use Webflow, you have to understand 110 111 00:08:28,950 --> 00:08:31,860 what is the reasoning behind them. How do they, 111 112 00:08:32,010 --> 00:08:37,430 how did they came to the conclusion, that they need to use WordPress as a platform? 112 113 00:08:37,530 --> 00:08:42,440 Because sometimes there is a specific feature or a requirement that they have, 113 114 00:08:42,450 --> 00:08:45,890 your clients might have, that Webflow is not able to meet. 114 115 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:52,230 For example, if the team has been using some WordPress plugin for their past website, probably because 115 116 00:08:52,230 --> 00:08:59,160 they had, you know, website on the WordPress and they were using some specific plugin. Let's say you are working 116 117 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:06,630 with a dental clinic and they are using a specific WordPress plugin for their appointments, like booking 117 118 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:10,260 appointments, you know like, calendars. And then, you know, users go on that website 118 119 00:09:10,270 --> 00:09:14,550 there's a calendar and then they put an appointment, something like that. Right? And they'll be using this 119 120 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:20,210 particular plugin. And maybe they really want that plugin, because maybe the staff is used to it, 120 121 00:09:20,220 --> 00:09:26,760 or maybe it's plugged in somehow in their kind of business process, or some integrating with other applications 121 122 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:28,220 that they are using themselves. 122 123 00:09:28,230 --> 00:09:31,600 Maybe some other CRM or something like that. 123 124 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:38,430 In that case, right? They really need to, you know, 100% keep with that plug in, 124 125 00:09:38,730 --> 00:09:45,960 you are not able to. Because if that plugin is WordPress specific then there is nothing 125 126 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:46,920 you can do about it. 126 127 00:09:46,980 --> 00:09:54,660 Now, obviously there are a lot of alternatives, and appointment booking applications, and third-party applications 127 128 00:09:54,690 --> 00:10:00,420 that are not platform-specific. And most of the really good ones and most of the great third party applications 128 129 00:10:00,420 --> 00:10:00,900 are like that. 129 130 00:10:00,900 --> 00:10:07,440 They're not platform-specific. They are kind of codes that you can install on any website and you could 130 131 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:13,230 find alternative, but if they really want to stick to exactly that plugin, because for some 131 132 00:10:13,230 --> 00:10:19,220 reason, then there is nothing you can do about it. And their only option is to go with Wordpress platform. 132 133 00:10:19,230 --> 00:10:20,160 And that's it. 133 134 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:26,520 So, you have to find out if there is some requirement, that needs to be met, that they need to meet, 134 135 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:31,740 and if you cannot fulfil it with Webflow, then you have to pass on that client. 135 136 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,940 And if you didn't find any requirement, that Webflow can't meet, then tell them that you have a better 136 137 00:10:35,940 --> 00:10:40,530 solution for them than Wordpress and give them three big Webflow benefits. 137 138 00:10:43,220 --> 00:10:49,490 First, the painless and high-performance Webflow hosting, all those points I mentioned earlier. The CDM, 138 139 00:10:49,490 --> 00:10:52,860 better security, faster, less hassle, cheaper. 139 140 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,190 Second, how quickly you can build, iterate and deliver their website. 140 141 00:10:57,380 --> 00:11:03,800 The Webflow Designer, duh! Coding a website from scratch takes way more time. And third benefit, Webflow 141 142 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:04,560 editor. 142 143 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:09,290 That's a big one for clients, Wordpress and other CMS are confusing for most people. 143 144 00:11:09,390 --> 00:11:13,580 They're ugly, they're clunky and slow. They're not very enjoyable to use. 144 145 00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:19,160 You have to go into the back office and edit content from there. But Webflow's editor is right on the 145 146 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,270 live site. 146 147 00:11:20,270 --> 00:11:25,400 Clients can just go on the live website and start editing content right there and then. And that's 147 148 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,720 how we actually make the case for Webflow with your clients. 148 149 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,380 Not much to actually "sell". 149 150 00:11:30,410 --> 00:11:32,710 It's quite simple and straightforward. 150 151 00:11:32,750 --> 00:11:40,670 I myself, actually rarely need to make a case for this. Because most of my clients, they trust my 151 152 00:11:40,670 --> 00:11:41,270 expertise. 152 153 00:11:41,270 --> 00:11:47,030 They're not very concerned where I'm going to build, because they're businessmen and entrepreneurs. 153 154 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:53,750 And often even, I work with teams, that are kind of techy development teams and even they are not very 154 155 00:11:53,750 --> 00:11:59,390 concerned where I build it, as long as it's efficient for me. And I produce it and I can iterate really 155 156 00:11:59,390 --> 00:12:03,470 well. Because I am the one, in reality, who is building a website. And I'm the one who is gonna be editing 156 157 00:12:03,470 --> 00:12:04,970 that website and all that stuff. 157 158 00:12:05,060 --> 00:12:10,250 So, it has to be fast and efficient for them. That I can, you know, make it really easy. And they ask me 158 159 00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:12,230 you know, how much does it gonna cost. 159 160 00:12:12,260 --> 00:12:14,450 I tell them the price and they say," OK, good". 160 161 00:12:14,540 --> 00:12:20,090 But in those cases where definitely Webflow seems like the best option for them and there is no limitation. 161 162 00:12:20,570 --> 00:12:21,800 And you, 162 163 00:12:21,850 --> 00:12:25,700 but for some reason, maybe you still face resistance from your clients. 163 164 00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:27,860 Maybe about the price or something else. 164 165 00:12:27,860 --> 00:12:32,150 Then all these benefits that I described, are enough to seal the deal.